Master League Online Complaint Thread
Re: Master League Online Complaint Thread
MLO as a mode is sooo good and I wish I could play it - but all these various cheats absolutely ruin it.
The whole point of online play is to face opposition that is different each time (as they are other humans), but everygame in MLO is so robotic and devoid of any skills/unique styles of playing it renders the mode redundant.
Played around 20 games so far, still not conceded a goal which wasn't from a cross or a dribble. The only good thing to take is when you can defend against a far superior team earning a draw/1-0 win. Shame.
Would love to see a community MLO introduced at some point. Could be epic.
The whole point of online play is to face opposition that is different each time (as they are other humans), but everygame in MLO is so robotic and devoid of any skills/unique styles of playing it renders the mode redundant.
Played around 20 games so far, still not conceded a goal which wasn't from a cross or a dribble. The only good thing to take is when you can defend against a far superior team earning a draw/1-0 win. Shame.
Would love to see a community MLO introduced at some point. Could be epic.
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Re: Master League Online Complaint Thread
Just wanted to repost something i had popped into the main discussion
OK MLO again..... i posted these tips i found for defending the other day
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If the player is some distance away hold X to "home" in on him
When close by press and hold R2 - with both R2 and X held in you are now "locked" onto the player
As the player dribbles let go of X (keep R2 held) and move your defender around until your ready to "lock" on again
If the player completely "beats" you , let go of X and R2 and use sprint to get back into posistion to repeat (or switch to another defender)
All the while use intelligent use of other defenders pressure to team up , and last but not least (an old football classic) if in doubt move defensive players to keep the attacker away from goal side …………………. All I have to do now is give the above a whirl !!! Hopefully it works a treat
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And you know what - it is very effective !!
Had an amazing game last night - this guy gets a very lucky goal (hes got a team full of superstars) deflected in , i get frustrated and get a red card , 10 men !!!!!! , and then i get 2 players injured (but have not got the quality to replace them)- he then weaves in and out using his dribbling whores and gets it to 3-0 ....... the second half begins ....no hope right ?? ...right??
Wrong the system starts clicking with me - i start to contain his dribbling and tracking players down the wings better ..... i can almost imagine him thinking to himself (WTF has happened !!!)
Then the unthinkable ....i string together 3 fantastic goals (in terms of team work) ....... and have a last ditch effort at winning the game ...it ends 3-3
If ONLY all online games were that entertaining .......anyhow ill keep plugging away with this system and see if i can fully master it !!!
OK MLO again..... i posted these tips i found for defending the other day
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If the player is some distance away hold X to "home" in on him
When close by press and hold R2 - with both R2 and X held in you are now "locked" onto the player
As the player dribbles let go of X (keep R2 held) and move your defender around until your ready to "lock" on again
If the player completely "beats" you , let go of X and R2 and use sprint to get back into posistion to repeat (or switch to another defender)
All the while use intelligent use of other defenders pressure to team up , and last but not least (an old football classic) if in doubt move defensive players to keep the attacker away from goal side …………………. All I have to do now is give the above a whirl !!! Hopefully it works a treat
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And you know what - it is very effective !!
Had an amazing game last night - this guy gets a very lucky goal (hes got a team full of superstars) deflected in , i get frustrated and get a red card , 10 men !!!!!! , and then i get 2 players injured (but have not got the quality to replace them)- he then weaves in and out using his dribbling whores and gets it to 3-0 ....... the second half begins ....no hope right ?? ...right??
Wrong the system starts clicking with me - i start to contain his dribbling and tracking players down the wings better ..... i can almost imagine him thinking to himself (WTF has happened !!!)
Then the unthinkable ....i string together 3 fantastic goals (in terms of team work) ....... and have a last ditch effort at winning the game ...it ends 3-3
If ONLY all online games were that entertaining .......anyhow ill keep plugging away with this system and see if i can fully master it !!!
Lets talk PES
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PES Sonicraig - International

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Re: Master League Online Complaint Thread
Konami what are you doing for God's sake!? My another friend is banned after he reported the cheater. He sent pictures and video as a proof but they ban him 
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Re: Master League Online Complaint Thread
maremas wrote:Konami what are you doing for God's sake!? My another friend is banned after he reported the cheater. He sent pictures and video as a proof but they ban him
Yes . And guess whats happening now...nearly everyone is playing with the same players...because of the Form Arrows...
nobody is playing with Bad Form Arrows a whole day so they selling them and buying red arrow players you can imagine what this means...You can not play with your favourite players....you have to sell and buy day after day
Totally broken this Mode IMO.
Why is there no testing in Konamis Department for Online PLAY????
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Re: Master League Online Complaint Thread
This is retarded - played 3 games in MLO.
1st game the server went, but the other guy gets a 3-0 win...
2nd game, I go 5-0 up the other guy quits...
3rd game, 8-0 to me @ 86mins he disconnects...
So now if anyone else decides to disconnect in my next 7 games my completion rate will drop below 70% and I'll probably get banned. Essentially I'm getting punished for battering people who decide to act like pathetic little babies and quit while losing heavily
On the plus side my striker Ribas stats are PLAYED 1 - SCORED 6
As for the whole form scenario - it's like you need two teams, one to play with when they are green+ then once they hit purple, sell them all and buy another group who are green+. Not very rewarding for those that like to keep a nucleus and a team aspect in MLO (which is pretty rare anyways).
Also, much like the foreigner rule, there needs to be a '1 speed merchant' / '1 darting run' player per team only. So sick of facing the exact same teams over and over...insert Piatti, Mphela, Barreto, Eto, Pato etc
1st game the server went, but the other guy gets a 3-0 win...
2nd game, I go 5-0 up the other guy quits...
3rd game, 8-0 to me @ 86mins he disconnects...
So now if anyone else decides to disconnect in my next 7 games my completion rate will drop below 70% and I'll probably get banned. Essentially I'm getting punished for battering people who decide to act like pathetic little babies and quit while losing heavily
As for the whole form scenario - it's like you need two teams, one to play with when they are green+ then once they hit purple, sell them all and buy another group who are green+. Not very rewarding for those that like to keep a nucleus and a team aspect in MLO (which is pretty rare anyways).
Also, much like the foreigner rule, there needs to be a '1 speed merchant' / '1 darting run' player per team only. So sick of facing the exact same teams over and over...insert Piatti, Mphela, Barreto, Eto, Pato etc
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Re: Master League Online Complaint Thread
I really tried to get on with this mode in 2011 and again I see Konami has not got a clue how to deal with this cheating problem so I will skip MLO even though I really want to play it.
I have sent this solution to Konami before and posted elsewhere, it's a very simple solution to stop cheating:
The game records the start time of the match. It automatically awards a loss and fine penalty if the full 90 minutes are not played. It's so damn simple. The system simply checks that a minimum of 10 minutes (or whatever the game duration is) has elapsed between start and finish.Tough luck if your connection sucks, if you don't reach the end match details screen YOU ARE PENALIZED.
Here's the anti-lag solution: If someone attempts to lag the match out the A.I REPLACES the person that quit. The server does not kick the other party back to the menu, the game continues on. Clearly PES can detect an abnormal quit and sometimes awards the cash to the last man standing, if it can do this then how hard is this to implement. In 2v2 or legends matches a player can quit and the game goes on....so this is possible RIGHT NOW.
When said quitter logs back in he is penalized for failing to complete a match and then penalized for attempting to cheat and black marked. This is not just a disconnection % penalty but a marker to show how many times this person has quit.
Until Konami addresses this cheating issue MLO will always be ruled by idiots. It's a shame because PES is soon going to be completely outstripped by FIFA because they continue to persist with this aging game engine.
I have sent this solution to Konami before and posted elsewhere, it's a very simple solution to stop cheating:
The game records the start time of the match. It automatically awards a loss and fine penalty if the full 90 minutes are not played. It's so damn simple. The system simply checks that a minimum of 10 minutes (or whatever the game duration is) has elapsed between start and finish.Tough luck if your connection sucks, if you don't reach the end match details screen YOU ARE PENALIZED.
Here's the anti-lag solution: If someone attempts to lag the match out the A.I REPLACES the person that quit. The server does not kick the other party back to the menu, the game continues on. Clearly PES can detect an abnormal quit and sometimes awards the cash to the last man standing, if it can do this then how hard is this to implement. In 2v2 or legends matches a player can quit and the game goes on....so this is possible RIGHT NOW.
When said quitter logs back in he is penalized for failing to complete a match and then penalized for attempting to cheat and black marked. This is not just a disconnection % penalty but a marker to show how many times this person has quit.
Until Konami addresses this cheating issue MLO will always be ruled by idiots. It's a shame because PES is soon going to be completely outstripped by FIFA because they continue to persist with this aging game engine.
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Re: Master League Online Complaint Thread
My big moan is the divisions as they are seriously flawed, to explain.
I was in Div5, not very good played a few comps, never qualified, usually won 2 lost 1 type scenario, however that got me to 510 points, so what happens....I GET PROMOTED TO DIV1
So I have an 80M team playing 500m+ teams getting beaten most of the time or drawing if I am lucky, this means I am not getting enough money to actually increase the squad to combat and will be relegated next monday but for one week I am just canon fodder....
I really want the ability to play competitions based on team worth not points or division, its then how we spend the money and how good we are at a style not when you got the game and started MLO and how many hours you play on it.
I was in Div5, not very good played a few comps, never qualified, usually won 2 lost 1 type scenario, however that got me to 510 points, so what happens....I GET PROMOTED TO DIV1
So I have an 80M team playing 500m+ teams getting beaten most of the time or drawing if I am lucky, this means I am not getting enough money to actually increase the squad to combat and will be relegated next monday but for one week I am just canon fodder....
I really want the ability to play competitions based on team worth not points or division, its then how we spend the money and how good we are at a style not when you got the game and started MLO and how many hours you play on it.
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Re: Master League Online Complaint Thread
I find it very telling that the last post for any online thread was the 15th of december
And the topic of that message was about how "borked" the implementation is
Does anyone play this mode anymore ???
And the topic of that message was about how "borked" the implementation is
Does anyone play this mode anymore ???
Lets talk PES
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Re: Master League Online Complaint Thread
PES Sonicraig wrote:I find it very telling that the last post for any online thread was the 15th of december
And the topic of that message was about how "borked" the implementation is
Does anyone play this mode anymore ???
I stopped playing PES 2012 like 2-3 months ago simply because I couldn't put down Dark Souls. I've since experience all I can experience in Dark Souls and even achieved the platinum trophy to boot. I really want to get back into PES 2012 but it seems hard to do when I think of the passing and especially the shooting. Back in the day I would have never abandoned PES for any reason but this year's game was a strange case of Jekyll and Hyde. One moment I was loving it and the next I was thinking "Why couldn't they have just left the shooting and passing alone from 2011?".
The MLO in 2012 still has that addicting feeling but there's no real incentive to keep playing after a while. The patches to PES 2012 didn't really bring any new elements to this mode. Now I don't want it to be like FIFA where you pay to add content to an existing mode but if that's what it takes to keep me hooked then so be it. I would have gladly purchased DLC to bring the J-League to PES 2012 and perhaps add more content to MLO. One thing I wish I could do on PES 2012 is play a co-op master league with a mate online against the AI. Yeah the AI is cheap in every way but having a mate playing with me through the whole master league would definitely keep me going. I simply don't have time to gather friends around to play ML cooperatively offline so this would have been great. Also the structure of ML offline has been lacking quality lately. Not since the brilliant ML of PES 2010 have I felt the urge to keep improving the club and players. Nowadays I simply go after the established superstars in the game to progress in ML. It's not like in the old days where I was forced to nurture young talent like Kaiser and Schwartz because there was no chance in hell I could manage to sign a player like Neymar.
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