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Master League Online Complaint Thread

Postby bkmelendez » Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:08 pm

Okay this is going to be another year of frustration in MLO. I just had a guy make his connection lag so bad in second half that the game gets cancelled. That's not what gets me angry though, The fact that I get no money and my match completion % goes down because of douchebags like these is absolute garbage. This guy orchestrated this since he wasn't taking control of his players in the first half. He had a really good team too so he must be benefiting from some of this. This was on PS3 and I didn't catch the name of the offender. :( It just started lagging really bad until it disconnected and now my chances of entering competitions is going to be affected. So not only is the online much more laggy than 2011 but we got to deal with this now.
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Re: Master League Online Complaint Thread

Postby pes4life » Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:20 pm

bkmelendez wrote:Okay this is going to be another year of frustration in MLO. I just had a guy make his connection lag so bad in second half that the game gets cancelled. That's not what gets me angry though, The fact that I get no money and my match completion % goes down because of douchebags like these is absolute garbage. This guy orchestrated this since he wasn't taking control of his players in the first half. He had a really good team too so he must be benefiting from some of this. This was on PS3 and I didn't catch the name of the offender. :( It just started lagging really bad until it disconnected and now my chances of entering competitions is going to be affected. So not only is the online much more laggy than 2011 but we got to deal with this now.

If this happens than it is a blow for MLO... One doesn't put the criminal and the victim in jail for the crime... Just don't... The cheaters had a free ride last year and this year they should "pay" for their "cheating" ways... This could mean the "honest" ones just abandoning this mode completely, leaving (worst case scenario) only the "cheaters"... Talk about "poetic justice"...

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Re: Master League Online Complaint Thread

Postby Bullet » Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:55 pm

The Thing which concerns me is that the ones who are playing with Auto Settings are more successfull then the ones without...
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Re: Master League Online Complaint Thread

Postby mascot88 » Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:43 am

This happens every year on both games .. Unavoidable ... It's few and far between ... But it us annoying ... It would gave to be an epidemic for it to stop you entering comps ... Very annoying though ...
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Re: Master League Online Complaint Thread

Postby DubVader » Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:20 am

Bullet wrote:The Thing which concerns me is that the ones who are playing with Auto Settings are more successfull then the ones without...


I'm not bothering with the online side no longer as PES has been a magnet for people that exploit and cheat, PES offline (until they fix and revamp the whole lot, in the form of a bandwidth test in the vein of gran turismo, if your connections not good enough you can't play) and make all settings manual or the ability to create rooms with settings across the board. Anyway BF 3 is out soon and that is where online will be this year!!
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Re: Master League Online Complaint Thread

Postby orkunbjk » Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:59 pm

Why blimp camera does not exist in MLO?
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Re: Master League Online Complaint Thread

Postby PES Sonicraig » Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:05 pm

Time to cry ....
Actually as far as lag goes im hoping i get as good of an experiance as i got last year
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Re: Master League Online Complaint Thread

Postby Bullet » Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:02 pm

Lol the Cheaters dont care about fair play - They Quitt and are getting a 3-0 win so they can afford some players...after that they have to play against each other...loooool
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Re: Master League Online Complaint Thread

Postby jonas10 » Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:05 pm

I don't play online because of things like this,it's a waste of time.
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Re: Master League Online Complaint Thread

Postby bkmelendez » Sat Oct 01, 2011 9:44 am

@Adam

There's a major bug with the "Advanced Search" tool for Master League Online. Sometimes you will get no results when you set your parameters such as position, budget, and overall rating. You have to exit all together from "Transfer Market" menu and go back in to actually get results for the very same parameters you just set. The players that meet those parameters will show this time.

Another thing, Konami have made a typo. In the "Transfer Market" menu, it says "Signed Player" instead of Sign Player. It's for buying players not to view the players who have already signed since that's what Squad List is for.
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Re: Master League Online Complaint Thread

Postby bigol » Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:24 am

bkmelendez wrote:Okay this is going to be another year of frustration in MLO. I just had a guy make his connection lag so bad in second half that the game gets cancelled. That's not what gets me angry though, The fact that I get no money and my match completion % goes down because of douchebags like these is absolute garbage. This guy orchestrated this since he wasn't taking control of his players in the first half. He had a really good team too so he must be benefiting from some of this. This was on PS3 and I didn't catch the name of the offender. :( It just started lagging really bad until it disconnected and now my chances of entering competitions is going to be affected. So not only is the online much more laggy than 2011 but we got to deal with this now.


i don't understand why we have to wait like hoping for an improvement
Konami MUST act fast, it's unbelievable that the online side of the game is untested. It's a steal of our money playing in a mode that made us buy the game, but right now because of things like this is unplayable. They must improve their tools to analize who disconnected the game, or which connection is the worse and punish the guy with a bad connection.
Penalizing both is unfair. Besides many people is saying that even if lag has diminuished online the game speed is too fast
Konami fix this, i can't stand this another year. Last year i managed to play Online Master League till February, this year i fear it will not last till December.
They are so unprofessional, it's amazing, i alreay said this, sometimes it seems like they like to shoot themselves in the feet.

And to everyone having issues with the game online, any complaints, please report it here.

These are the complaints i read so far:
online speed is too fast, because of 0 speed setting
the game disconnects many times causing disconnection rate to raise
the game doesn't analyze who is the user who caused the disconnection, just penalize both users
no blimp camera online
no 2vs2 online on xbox version
no filter to choose to play against people with 0 pass assistance
no libertadores teams online, Murphy promised so before the game release
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Re: Master League Online Complaint Thread

Postby bigol » Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:40 am

Sorry for the double post but here they discuss exactly the same argument about disconnections as in here

https://forums.pesfan.com/showthread.ph ... -is-BROKEN
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Anyway, "haters" or the ones who love to point out the flaws and say "it's not good this way, would'nt it be better to do it like this?" are the ones who keep the community alive and show still faith in PES, still talking about how to improve it. Not just to bash it. Blind love or faith for the game will not bring it back to its old glory. Positive critics and suggestions, as much as we can, is what can help Konami and the series right now.
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Re: Master League Online Complaint Thread

Postby pesdebug » Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:45 am

The online and offline gameplay experience needs to be identical (take PES5/6 for example).
Control and speed is the fundament.

I had one quick online match on 2012 but it didn't feel like it. Will try sometime later but have no high hopes. Not even talking about modes here, like MLO. Gameplay comes first online, too. Not the modes.

no filter to choose to play against people with 0 pass assistance


Yeah, I would prefer
- a filter that would allow/disallow certain teams by their strengh or manual selection ("low teams only"-room)
- get more points beating an A team with a C team and the other way around
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Re: Master League Online Complaint Thread

Postby bigol » Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:48 am

pesdebug wrote:The online and offline gameplay experience needs to be identical (take PES5/6 for example).
Control and speed is the fundament.

I had one quick online match on 2012 but it didn't feel like it. Will try sometime later but have no high hopes. Not even talking about modes here, like MLO. Gameplay comes first online, too. Not the modes.

no filter to choose to play against people with 0 pass assistance


Yeah, I would prefer a filter that would allow/disallow certain teams.


me too, online side from Konami is so behind compared to Fifa, it's just like other technical elements of the game
Konami technology is behind even if gameplay is great
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Re: Master League Online Complaint Thread

Postby DDees » Sat Oct 01, 2011 12:48 pm

Bullet wrote:The Thing which concerns me is that the ones who are playing with Auto Settings are more successfull then the ones without...


lol I was telling this weeks ago, but then no one agreed now look at all the pes forums on the internet everybody are complaining about online

online will be mess this year, passing 4 bars, pin pall passing 90min long

auto tackle and all that crap on people just need to press the pressure button and the cpu does all the tackling
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Re: Master League Online Complaint Thread

Postby TJHUCKER » Sat Oct 01, 2011 1:51 pm

pes4life wrote:
bkmelendez wrote:Okay this is going to be another year of frustration in MLO. I just had a guy make his connection lag so bad in second half that the game gets cancelled. That's not what gets me angry though, The fact that I get no money and my match completion % goes down because of douchebags like these is absolute garbage. This guy orchestrated this since he wasn't taking control of his players in the first half. He had a really good team too so he must be benefiting from some of this. This was on PS3 and I didn't catch the name of the offender. :( It just started lagging really bad until it disconnected and now my chances of entering competitions is going to be affected. So not only is the online much more laggy than 2011 but we got to deal with this now.

If this happens than it is a blow for MLO... One doesn't put the criminal and the victim in jail for the crime... Just don't... The cheaters had a free ride last year and this year they should "pay" for their "cheating" ways... This could mean the "honest" ones just abandoning this mode completely, leaving (worst case scenario) only the "cheaters"... Talk about "poetic justice"...



This really really pisses me off...Konami, who the hell is giving you these ideas??? Who is responsible for fu**ing this mode up? I swear point me in the direction so I can beat the crap out of em.....This is what makes Konami a joke...PES = Pathetic efforts Seabass....Really bummed now !!! :twisted: :evil:

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Re: Master League Online Complaint Thread

Postby kovy » Sat Oct 01, 2011 2:41 pm

DDees wrote:
Bullet wrote:The Thing which concerns me is that the ones who are playing with Auto Settings are more successfull then the ones without...


lol I was telling this weeks ago, but then no one agreed now look at all the pes forums on the internet everybody are complaining about online

online will be mess this year, passing 4 bars, pin pall passing 90min long

auto tackle and all that crap on people just need to press the pressure button and the cpu does all the tackling


exactly that is killing online this year, everything assisted, you need absolutely no skill, just press pass all the time, this game could be so good...
and the game should be able to recognize who disconnected and not just punish both players, i think i'm not allowed to join tournaments before pes 2013 now lol
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Re: Master League Online Complaint Thread

Postby beraht » Sat Oct 01, 2011 3:52 pm

for master league online, people have disconnected numerous times now that I have a stronger team. Sometimes as soon as they see my squad they leave. I do get money like it was a win and I do get the stat that it was a win BUT my disconnect ratio goes up as well and now I can't join tournaments either.

IMO online is not broke. There are some weird moments sometimes when players just don't go to the ball (hence a lot of use of super cancel) but I have never ran into someone that disconnected and won.

BUT the whole disconnect ratio thing is broken, and I wish they had ways of being able to separate so you can play with lower club teams and not face 5 star teams.

I personally have not anyone that has played the game online all automatic, nor have I played anyone that have used extremely cheap tactics on me that actually have worked.

PES 2012 online (especially master league online) is a lot of fun. Don't worry too much about people cheating, I think it is pretty rare
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Re: Master League Online Complaint Thread

Postby TJHUCKER » Sat Oct 01, 2011 4:54 pm

I knew these auto Fifa crap settings would mess MLO up...I knew It...Who asked for this crap...Does anyone have a clue what they are doing at Konami. I hate to say It but EA will kill you now Seabass...and you deserve it now for being so stupid...

You think EA won't be in the board room talking about your AI and player movement? You think Fifa won't bring this to their game?

All this bull Konami fed us last year about passing system etc, then they take it out the following year. WTF is sky blue doing? Ain't they suppose to improve PES?

Why do we even bother trying to help them, when they clearly remove all the things that make the game good? So angry at Seabass.
Game modes? MLO is the game, never mind the BAL, Become a boss, and a long winded ML. MLO is where it's at. I hope FIFA deliever next year so I can have a football game that works properly and not have to put up with this crap on a disc...... :twisted:
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Re: Master League Online Complaint Thread

Postby beraht » Sat Oct 01, 2011 5:12 pm

lol, yeah really the only thing FIFA is missing now is good AI like PES and a little bit more player individuality than it would be better than PES

but for right now I prefer PES due to AI only now
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