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PES 2013 Master League Online

Postby Rach08 » Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:47 pm

Konami please have a look at this thread. This is what the fans would like to see happen with this mode.

Please post all ideas about MLO in here. Cheers

Konami here are mine. I think MLO should be structured in this way:

1. Bring back the league structure that was present in the 2011 game ie. You can only move up or down a division each week depending on your points - a relegation and promotion breakpoint.

2. Each squad is allowed a maximum of 18 players.

3. Each division has a wage structure. By this I mean for example.

Division 5 - £50 million max
Division 4 - £125 million max
Division 3 - £200 million max
Division 2 - £275 million max
Division 1 - £350 million max

This would greatly balance the whole mode and would greatly help new comers to the game. The current situation with this mode basically gives new comers to the game no chance. By this I mean if I bought the game today I would constantly be up against teams of massive value with my little defaults. Would put anyone of right away.

A maximum total of £350 million for an ELITE squad in Division 1 would effectively have to be made up different than they are in the current game. 18 players for this value is also £19.4 million per player. More than enough to get a really good squad together. If you want for talks sake Messi, Aguero and Ibrahimovic up front then you are simply going to have to sacrifice elsewhere. This is where things get excited and the game will effectively balance itself out. This would also be more realistic to how the game actually is in world football.

4. The contracts for players could stay as this is not a bad idea.

5. Remove the yo-yo (up and down effect) form from this years game. Bring back the form adapted from MLO 2011 in effect to the players actual form rating in his stats. Last year I had Perrotta (Form 7) in my Italia 2006 team and most of the time he was on an up arrow. This years Form does not work at all.

6. Remove 'Team Types' and the 'Speed Merchant' card. Bring back defensive player cards such as 'Defensive Leader'.
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Re: PES 2013 Master League Online

Postby Randy » Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:08 am

Or how about this!

There is a wage maximum on tournaments! At the start of the tournament you register your available players within a maximum wage limit.

Maybe intergrated with the current D-12345 cups, may be a whole new bunch of tournaments, instead of those anoying assist mode. Like for example.

Local Cup - £50 million max
Regonal Cup - £125 million max
National Cup - £200 million max
Contintental Cup - £275 million max
World cup - £350 million max

If Konami intergrates these cups with the current D2-cup-needs-D2-division-system, then you can choose as player if you want to compete in a tournament with people only from the D2 division, with all the players the bought, or compete in a tournament with a maximum wage. I think this way the most fun for the users. The top-player horders can keep playing against other top-player horders, while the people creative with their own selection can play against other creativly constructed self build teams.
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Re: PES 2013 Master League Online

Postby pesmad » Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:14 pm

Ideas for Pes 2013 MLO

1. Wage structure (like Rach08 mentioned)
2. Ability to loan players between your Online friends
3. Match banning for Yellow/Red cards
4. Ability to make your own competitions among your Online friends
5. Form arrows change depending on last match performance
6. No team style.
7. Proper league tables
Hoping Konami will bring back the Pes 11 MLO format for Pes 14
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Re: PES 2013 Master League Online

Postby Rach08 » Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:38 pm

pesmad wrote:Ideas for Pes 2013 MLO

1. Wage structure (like Rach08 mentioned)
2. Ability to loan players between your Online friends
3. Match banning for Yellow/Red cards
4. Ability to make your own competitions among your Online friends
5. Form arrows change depending on last match performance
6. No team style.
7. Proper league tables


Aye good ideas bud but there already is match banning for yellow and red cards?
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Re: PES 2013 Master League Online

Postby danielrh » Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:36 pm

MLO on PES11 was addictive, fun, competitive and no end of guys (especially fifa players - our/my Xbox live parties were legendary) started to pick up PES11 after the updates/Jan transfer window updates, I really started to get into MLO (PES11) around that time.

all Konami needed to add in MLO in the main was paying players wages (contract system), so expect to pay someone like Cristiano Ronaldo a higher wage than for example Bolton's Kevin Davies.

that's why I purposely did't include a wage structure for the five divisions, because the money you would earn if for
example your in division 5 would balance out because you the manager would have transfer fees and player contracts to consider.

also on top of that players transfer fees needed to be more realistic - what happen in MLO was players like Cristiano Ronaldo, Messi, Pato (that's for you Adam...lol), guys were able to sign this players too quick in my opinion these types of players should be very expensive (just like real life) - which then means alot of effort, time and management is needed to be able to bring one of these type of player to your team - here's where the longevity comes into MLO.

I could go on and on - but I'll leave it there and check back later, one thing I would like to see especially for next gen?

REGEN players for MLO (similar to football manager)
I'd love Konami to say once a month have on the server a new batch of unknown players for you to scout or sign, I think it will add variety and assist by cutting down the number of same teams same signed players syndrome

because I could end up playing Rach and he's about to unleash a new player against me - and there's me thinking who the hell is (whatever you want to name him)
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Re: PES 2013 Master League Online

Postby Rach08 » Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:15 pm

danielrh wrote:MLO on PES11 was addictive, fun, competitive and no end of guys (especially fifa players - our/my Xbox live parties were legendary) started to pick up PES11 after the updates/Jan transfer window updates, I really started to get into MLO (PES11) around that time.

all Konami needed to add in MLO in the main was paying players wages (contract system), so expect to pay someone like Cristiano Ronaldo a higher wage than for example Bolton's Kevin Davies.

that's why I purposely did't include a wage structure for the five divisions, because the money you would earn if for
example your in division 5 would balance out because you the manager would have transfer fees and player contracts to consider.

also on top of that players transfer fees needed to be more realistic - what happen in MLO was players like Cristiano Ronaldo, Messi, Pato (that's for you Adam...lol), guys were able to sign this players too quick in my opinion these types of players should be very expensive (just like real life) - which then means alot of effort, time and management is needed to be able to bring one of these type of player to your team - here's where the longevity comes into MLO.

I could go on and on - but I'll leave it there and check back later, one thing I would like to see especially for next gen?

REGEN players for MLO (similar to football manager)
I'd love Konami to say once a month have on the server a new batch of unknown players for you to scout or sign, I think it will add variety and assist by cutting down the number of same teams same signed players syndrome

because I could end up playing Rach and he's about to unleash a new player against me - and there's me thinking who the hell is (whatever you want to name him)


Good point
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Re: PES 2013 Master League Online

Postby thombhoy » Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:45 pm

I like the divisional wage structure idea, and agree with you about the player form, it's a total nightmare having to chop and change your team all the time :)
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Re: PES 2013 Master League Online

Postby Rach08 » Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:09 pm

thombhoy wrote:I like the divisional wage structure idea, and agree with you about the player form, it's a total nightmare having to chop and change your team all the time :)


It needs to go thombhoy. I still believe there is a hidden chemistry in teams, especially if you go on a winning run. The form needs to be similar to PES 2011. The players actual stat form should dictate their form from match to match. Perrotta (form 7) in PES 2011 was very rarely on a down arrow in my Italia WC Champs 2006 team.

Aaaah I still miss that team. It was all the World Cup winners from 2006. Dont know if I would be even able to create that squad now. Cannavaro and Toni arent even in the game now :(
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Re: PES 2013 Master League Online

Postby danielrh » Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:11 pm

thombhoy wrote:I like the divisional wage structure idea, and agree with you about the player form, it's a total nightmare having to chop and change your team all the time :)


I like the wage structure but I don't think it's needed, at this stage I'm all about simple, fair and addictive online MLO plus bearing in mind the time needed by Konami to implement new ideas, I don't want Konami bombarded with too much stuff to do.

everything is balanced out nicely if we have.
realistic transfer prices and player contracts (be prepared to give a player like Messi a higher transfer fee and wages compared to Oxlade Chamberlain)

player form? (arrows) PES11 had it bang on
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Re: PES 2013 Master League Online

Postby thombhoy » Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:18 pm

Forgot to mention teamstyles, konami need to remove them for pes 2013, as
myself and many others have said before they are really not needed, if you want a fast player buy one, if you want a technically gifted player then buy
one, and so on.

Roll on pes 2013 news ;)
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Re: PES 2013 Master League Online

Postby thombhoy » Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:31 pm

danielrh wrote:
thombhoy wrote:I like the divisional wage structure idea, and agree with you about the player form, it's a total nightmare having to chop and change your team all the time :)


I like the wage structure but I don't think it's needed, at this stage I'm all about simple, fair and addictive online MLO plus bearing in mind the time needed by Konami to implement new ideas, I don't want Konami bombarded with too much stuff to do.

everything is balanced out nicely if we have.
realistic transfer prices and player contracts (be prepared to give a player like Messi a higher transfer fee and wages compared to Oxlade Chamberlain)

player form? (arrows) PES11 had it bang on



Fair point mate 8-)

@Rach08 Agree mate 8-)
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Re: PES 2013 Master League Online

Postby Sakdov » Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:08 pm

Agree with nearly all the suggestions but the biggest improvement needed is in the matchmaking. I haven't played 2012 mlo for around 1 month due to the frustration and bought Fifa 2012 to play with friends (already bored with fifa and still sure its all the licences that make it sell).

So last night i turn on pes 2012 and being in division 5 rated at 351 with a 15 million pound team i was paired with a division 4 player with a rating of 541 with a 60 million pound team. I lose 2-1 and overall the game was good as my opponent didn't abuse the cheap goals and played well. I then search for my next game and again was paired with a high rated division 4 player but with a team worth close to 100 million. This player had many of the speed players and completely played the game with the cheapness just for the win which made me rage quit and throw the disc back in its box.


I need the matchmaking to be better, I need restrictions on players in divisions, I need to know im getting beat by the better player (this problem is the same on fifa too), I want to be told if they can't find me a suitable opponent that i have an option to broaden the search by either team cost or division.
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Re: PES 2013 Master League Online

Postby Bravez » Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:23 pm

I loved the MLO beta on 2011 but i also love playing offline. As long as this year sees a balanced online and also a proper balanced MLO in terms of superstar teams in proper divisions then I think i'll give MLo a real go this year.

I would like to see the top players want to leave or maybe only able to be signed if you are in a high div. I'm sure that's been mentioned before but i'm not very active in MLO discussion.
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Re: PES 2013 Master League Online

Postby skiamakia » Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:13 pm

Remove Time type and Speed merchant card :)
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Re: PES 2013 Master League Online

Postby knibis » Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:15 am

MLO should be top priority. Make so other people can see your own costume team kit and emblem. Also we need an advanced stadium and net editor. It would also be awsome if we could use our costume stadium and nets in MLO.

...also more updates and patches

And just wanted to say that I hope they keep the passing system from PES 2011 because it was awsome..
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Re: PES 2013 Master League Online

Postby Magooder » Wed May 09, 2012 8:22 am

I'm really excited to see what they do with this years MLO and I do hope they make some major changes to the game mode. It could be such a popular mode and if done right, dare I say tempt some people over from FIFA. It already has all the makings of being such a great mode but there are some issues that need to be addressed to add more realism and replayability.

I posted last year that there needs to be a wage cap system implemented that should be based on divisions. For example:

D5: Only players with overall of 70 or under
D4: 75 and under
D3: 80 and under
D2: 90 and under
D1: No restrictions

If you got relegated you should have to sell your players accordingly. It only makes sense.. Let's say D5 is the equivalent to England's League Two.. Will Ronaldo and Messi play in this league? Absolutely not.. So why should someone in D5 have a superstar team?

I'd also love to see the promotion/relegation system and form arrows go back to how it was in PES 2011. I hate PES 2012s version of both of these things.


Let's see what PES 2013 MLO brings... Can't wait! :D
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Re: PES 2013 Master League Online

Postby Magooder » Wed May 09, 2012 8:24 am

knibis wrote:
And just wanted to say that I hope they keep the passing system from PES 2011 because it was awsome..


It seems that we are amongst the few that think this mate but I absolutely agree with this.
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Re: PES 2013 Master League Online

Postby Magooder » Wed May 09, 2012 8:39 am

I posted this a year ago regarding MLO (PES 2011) and PES12 MLO has only made this worse...

My biggest gripe with MLO is the stage I'm at now though. I had so much fun in the early divisions, trying to build up money and sign players. My first ever signing was Kenwyne Jones and he was just unbelievable for me. I got promoted to D4 with a team full of defaults and Kenwyne Jones, he made that much of an impact. At that point I couldn't even dream of signing the likes of Rooney and Vidic. Now that I have, I don't enjoy it much anymore and that's just not the way the mode should be. Now that I am at a point where I have a really strong squad I should still have things to look forward to and have goals like I did in the earlier divisions. Of course my goals would be a lot different now, instead of playing for 3 hours and making one average signing I'd be trying to hold on to my top players by staying in the top divisions. That is football though, as I progress my goals and expectations as a football club change. There's just no more incentive for me to play this mode any longer and with a simple addition of what I've talked about, it would without a doubt be a mode I'd still be addicted to today.


I still firmly believe this is the direction they should take regarding MLO. I would love it so much more if this were the case.
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Re: PES 2013 Master League Online

Postby gu3rr3ir0 » Thu May 10, 2012 1:05 pm

MLO should be difficult. We should only manage to get players like ronaldo and messi once we get to the top division. Bring back the form system of 2011, and the division system to ( you only get up one division at a time ).

Like someone said no top player would play in lower divisions, so if you are in lower divisions you wouldn´t be able to sign those player above 95 or something like that. I agree with the wage for divisions, but make division one unlimited.

Plus to add longevity to the mode once you add the team of your dreams it to make diferent cups like the champions league but only available to the first 300 teams of division 1 and the first 200 teams of division 2.

Oh and just remember, the money we make for victories should be like in 2011 where you will receive accordingly to the value of the team you played. If you´re on D1 and play a D5 you will receive less money, and win far less points or lose a lot more point or money.

Make country based cups, and team based cups, ie cups where there will be only people who is benfica, or real madrid, or barcelona. More ideas to come, stay tuned :D:D
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Re: PES 2013 Master League Online

Postby estebanrey » Mon May 21, 2012 12:05 am

I've always a limit to player availability numbers, say around 10%. So if there 1 million registered teams, there would only be 100k of each player and if all of them get signed you have to wait until they become available or try and trade with a team that has one.
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