PES 2011 Wish-lists: Master League

[freak08]

, new concepts with reason and possibility are on the way, soon i'll be posting them.

[ieyan]

- can move to another club..
- all the players value should be more realistic..even 18,19 years old value is almost 20,25 million..in real world is just like 900,000.1,2 million..
- salary also change..make it like 100,000 per-week not 18,20 million in 5 years..
- more stadiums..
- all leagues should have division 2..

[chaos]

- Bring back the possibility to create your own team, and to change its kits and badges inside the master league menu. It was so cool in PES2009, where I have changed my kits after every season, changed the sponsors on the kits, and added stars for champions league I've won.
- Make 8 leagues, each of them with the second division. Combined with my ideas of the edit mode, they don't have to be licensed at all, it's enough, if everything - name of the cup, of the league and of every team is editable.
- More managerial aspects (may be optional, though)
- add the particular logo of the leagues on the kits of the according teams
- add the possibility to change the look of your players (shoes, rings, bracelets, hair, etc), so that you can imagine a more real life like process of your team

[Arsenalisti]

We badly need an offline multiplayer master league experience!!

[joshdelaney]

i think they refereeing system should be improved. my player gets snapped and then i dont get nothing....its play on? also i think we should be able to move clubs because i have been sunderland now and i am in 2019 and my whole team ratings are in the 90s. its too easy on top player. other than that Pro Evolution Soccer is the greatest football game ever made.

[Zado316]

According to me the master league, in pes 2010, is the best managerial experience ever.
don't need a revolution.

Exactly, We need Evolution. They should add Friendlies for preseason.
[list=]I should be able exhange players like in previous pes games, ie exchange Nani plus $40mil for C. Ronaldo. add new things, Don't remove good ones.

[/list]MAKE US OF THE 50GB BLUE RAY, MGS4 did. MASS EFFECT HAS 2 DISKS FOR XBOX 360 DO THE SAME

I would love to see a KONAMI Store on psn with an exclusive area for PES fans n owners,(even Mgs4) where fans can vote, chat, trade option files and edited items, download clips of their favorite clubs to add to the gallery section of the game,Music, infact it shoulf be the KONAMI MALL so i can get DLC such as boots, created kits, a better "Edit" software for pes which can be used to edit anything in pes.

They should borrow ideas from FORZA MOTORSPORT 3 & 4 for the Editing software. the maner and depth with which players can edit and create designs is fantastic in Forza.

[Zado316]

I would love to be able to download old Man united kits to put in my Manager mode club locker. And use those kits for friendlies.

I would like to get a few "Did u know facts" about my club flash on the news bar in manager mode.
Special attention should go to DERBY matches, Cup/League title matches, matches between the Top 4, Rivalries. Improve the atmosphere of these matches. For the premiership there should be at least 3 or 4 rivalry matches for each one of the top six or premiership contenders as the Premier League has 5 WORLDCLASS teams.

Create KONAMI MALL ON PSN & XBOX 360

Incorporate club websites, preferably their virtual stores within the KONAMI MALL so that we can get virtual club merchandise,( because of licensing) and "did u know facts", clips.
In past Pes games like Pes 5/6 if im not wrong, u could review statistics of past meetings with clubs even player ratings, this should be brought back as it increases the authenticity of the game, just don't force me to view them, it should be voluntary for the manager to view them.

[Zado316]

- can move to another club..
- all the players value should be more realistic..even 18,19 years old value is almost 20,25 million..in real world is just like 900,000.1,2 million..
- salary also change..make it like 100,000 per-week not 18,20 million in 5 years..
- more stadiums..
- all leagues should have division 2..

dude do the math divide 20mil/260weeks= about 77k/wk

[Zado316]

HOW TO BEAT FIFA wish-list MASTER LEAGUE
If they add the feature where a manager can change teams I hope that they try to make it as realistic as possible by making it such that, you as the manager sign a 3 or 4 yr contract, the contract should also be dependent on how confident the club is in you, so if your starting up you will most likely only be given a one year contract.

If you are fired 3 times in a row the master league is over and start over from scratch.
The WORLD CUP, AFRICAN CUP & EURO CUP should be included.

You should be able to coach a national team.

YOU should be able to buy items from the pes store with your managers' earnings, ie the ability to be 2 managers, buy clothes, accessories,etc

the 2 managers idea could be the most expensive of all the unlock-able extras, it should not only require money but also certain achievements to unlock. the second manager can only manage a national team. You can.not manage 2 National teams at once Just a thot.

You should add an Ipod in the game like they did in MGS4, I want to be able to customize my playlist. it could be one of the things your manager can buy. It should have more capabilities than the the standard playlist as you play Master League. It could be used to download music/ videos onto the game as you play from an online source, and watch the videos in your managers office, videos could be anything from other players goals in Master League, actual club history, actual games, player interviews, to music videos.

I WANT KONAMI to push PSN to its LIMIT

[Zado316]

I mistakenly posted this elsewhere but being able to control 2 different clubs in Master League would be a fantastic addition. Love Master League this year, but if I could play it head to head with a friend that would be outstanding!

So true, it would be nice if it was an unlock-able item in master league mode, which you could only unlock after u unlock certain achievements then proceed to purchase it with ur money earned as a manager.

It would be nice to be able to play friendlies against ur friends online using ur master league team which u could use to earn money and improve ur teams fan base. winner takes all the money or 90% of the prize money, plus entrance fees and both teams improve their fan base. Such matches should be schedule to be played within a fixed period of time ie 2 days, if one party does not show up to play the match after 36hrs the other can proceed to play for 80% of the prize money.

I would like to be able to create my manager just like u do in become a legend, he should not be affected by aging. I want to play as many seasons a i want just as its always been. Mannagers should have 4 qualities;
Attack minded
Charismatic
Tactician
Gr8 with youth team etc

Club Expenses should Remain the way they are now. All they should do is add managers and include their expenses to the list. Manager salaries should be capped depending on the length of contract. ie 70mil. If u sign fo 5 seasons(14 mil a season).This would ensure that the best managers go to the best teams. The shortest contract u can sign is a 2yr contract with a cap of 40mi maxl(20mil a season). The OVERALL Cap is 20mil/ season( 3yr contract= 60mil max). For contracts that are longer than 3yrs, the overall cap should be 70mil, with an annual cap of 20mil. could grow the longer u stayed ie 15mil the first season, 25mil the 2nd season as a long

Success in signing for a team is dependent on ur manager level and how u negotiate for the contract. 70mil is the max salary u can get a year ONLY IF U SIGN A 1 YEAR CONTRACT. Commentators should know if you've signed a new contract and mention it. Or if your contract is almost over.

[Zado316]

Success in signing for a team is dependent on ur manager level and how u negotiate for the contract. 70mil is the max salary u can get a year ONLY IF U SIGN A 1 YEAR CONTRACT. Commentators should know if you've signed a new contract and mention it. Or if your contract is almost over.

Zado316

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THIS bit in my previous subject is wrong. the max u can earn a year is 20mil.
The shortest contract is 2yrs.
Most teams will be reluctant to sign u on short term contracts for huge sums of money.
Success in signing for a team is dependent on ur manager level and how u negotiate for the contract.

[lukasz200992]

known real world sponsors

[Zado316]

-Practice Mode in ML
-Improve the team rosters & update the prices for players.

That would suck.
Create a different mode for that similar to what Fifa has.

The whole point of master league is that u get to catch a glimpse of what managers do. How do you experience this when you have no say to what your starting lineup is, or how your players develop!! That would suck.
I want my actions to determine how the players develop, skill wise and price wise.

Practice mode would be a gr8 addition.

[Maro33]

Instead of bringing the retired players back after one or two seasons as 17 years old youngstars, they should be able
to create randome edited players, with fake names, but original faces, random hairstyles, height, weight and stats. For example a defensive player, 189 cm, 85 kg, pippo inzaghi face, long hair and random name.
They should be able to create a hidden editor that every year after players retire, mixes up every aspect of the players and creates new, never seen players, that nobody can have twice in a game.

[robbkemp]

there are two cups in each domestic season not just one; ie fa cup and carling cup. this other cup must be included as to give more opportunity to younger players to develop. think of arsenals carling cup runs of late.

and for realism of couse.

[bal master]

there are two cups in each domestic season not just one; ie fa cup and carling cup. this other cup must be included as to give more opportunity to younger players to develop. think of arsenals carling cup runs of late.

and for realism of couse.

This only applies in the English premier league every where else there is only one cup competition.

[bearwithit]

While this year has seen the greatest leap forward with the Master League since it was invented, there are many things that still need to be improved with the mode.

I should say before I begin that I strongly feel that Pro Evo should continue moving along the ‘management’ route as they have been in recent years, starting with players developing and getting older, etc. Anyone who disagrees with me on this point will disagree with a lot of what I have to say.

1. You should get offers to manage other clubs, and be able to move between them, perhaps even getting international job offers. Each season could start with objectives being laid out by the board, if objectives are not met, you’re out the door, if they’re exceeded, extra transfer funds/wage budget.

2. The sponsorship system is very cool, but it would be nice to get options and have to choose which one you get. Would you like a large lump sum of cash or a smaller one with extras in bonuses?

3. Improve player interaction – the ‘heart’ system is a start but it would be nice to be able to say things to players to make them feel better – promise them a first team place next year, or a certain shirt number.

4. Be able to offer new contracts at any time – it’s completely unrealistic to have to wait until 6 months before a deal expires.

5. The news system, while poor, is a good start and could be much improved. The in-game ‘media’ could link you to players that the computer would buy if it had your players and finances, thereby giving you hints and tips.

6. Having said that, the computer’s transfer AI is poor, and needs to be improved. I have sold default ML players such as Minanda to Big Four teams in the past – clearly unrealistic. Unlike many people I am actually very pleased that it is so hard to buy your Rooney’s, Ronaldo’s and Messi’s this year. It’s almost impossible to buy them in real life too. Only if you are number one team in the world AND have hundred’s of Mil in the bank should you have your pick of players. Even then, if a player is in love with his club, why would he leave?

7. The scouting system is good, but can be improved. Finally, we have a reason to put players on a watchlist! Scouting reports need to be more in-depth and should also give an estimation from the scout how large a bid is needed to open negotiations. It’s a shame that currently you have to waste a negotiation on simply finding out if a player is available or at what price when in real life this can happen with a phone call. Many management games allow unlimited negotiations that happen almost instantly, or over days (rather than weeks as in Pro Evo).

8. I love the ‘fog of war’ feature (not being able to see players stats until they are scouted) but this should probably be extended to not knowing anyone’s ‘overall rating’ as well. This would encourage greater reliance on your scout, which is realistic. However, I would suggest that stats of players you have seen in action (i.e. played against) should be visible, as you have seen them play just as a scout would.

9. I love the new youth system, SO much better than the old “newcomers” section, but could still be improved. There are a couple of times when I have promoted a GOOD keeper from my youth team, and when I look at him in my squad he is all of a sudden PHENOMENAL, jumping approx. 20 overall rating points. I guess this is a bug, but needs sorting (as do all other bugs in the game, of course). The ability to spend money building ‘youth camps’ in certain parts of the world would be cool (if you don’t think it’s a little too far down the FIFA Manager road), and then you would get more youngsters from that country. It would be very cool to get reports from your youth team coach such as “We have found this amazing 14 year old” to let you know that a big talent will arrive in your youth team in two or three seasons, and encourage you to invest more in your youth set up over those seasons, otherwise the talent is wasted, or you get a message saying he has left to go to another club because he can get better training there.

10. On the topic of operating costs, I think this is a huge step forwards, and should be expanded. There should be more things to spend money on, and the more money you put in, the less benefit you get – the law of diminishing returns. This would mean that no matter how much money you have, you can always spend it on something, that no-one will ever have the “best of everything”. You will have to make genuine decisions about what you spend your money on.

11. If you do get ridiculously rich and can buy the best of everything, players should start demanding massive wages, just like Man City or Chelsea a few years ago in real life. This is only realistic and provides a built in “rubber band” difficulty, so that the better you do, the harder the game gets. A “victim of your own success” kind of thing.

12. Injuries are way too infrequent. While annoying when they do happen, they don’t happen enough. I intentionally play Master League with a Level 1 Doctor because I WANT injuries more often, I WANT to NEED players in my squad. For realism.

13. I disagree with some peoples 'moan's' about small clubs having no money. This is realistic, and right. If anything they should have less. I have started a new Master League with the lowest ranked club I could get my hands on, started with about 3 million, Level 1 on all operating costs, scraping around in the transfer market for Bosmans and loan deals. I managed to put together a few results, and players who performed well received offers in January (this is a brilliant new feature, by the way, that players who PLAY WELL get offers regardless of ability. If you can make them look good, they will get attention). I managed to sell 5 players (including both centre backs, Jaric and Bauman, due to excellent defensive displays) and buy 5 players, including Carlton Cole, who fired me up the table. I won the league by about 10 points and got to the FA Cup semis. All this on Top Player. It is not only possible to play with no money, in my humble opinion it’s more fun.

14. AI MUST be improved. See the above point – this should not only be difficult on Top Player, it should really be impossible. The forums occasionally have threads along the lines of “Master League is too easy, even on Top Player. I’m Man U and I’ve won everything in my first and second seasons” and people respond by saying “Of course it’s easy – you’re Manchester United”. Let me tell you – no league should be that easy – why? Because it’s not that easy in real life. You think Sir Alex has an easy job? No – because of Chelsea, Arsenal, and Liverpool. They can also win the title, and countless other teams have the ability to beat them on their day. Top Player should be a realistic setting, where unless you are a big four team, you have virtually no chance of winning the Premier League in your first season. It should take a few years to get a Man City, a Spurs, a Villa or an Everton to that point, and even longer for smaller clubs. I know a lot of people don’t have the patience to play for more than a couple of seasons, but that’s fine – that’s why there are lower difficulty levels. Top Player should be this hard.

That’s all I can think of right now, which is frustrating because I know there’s more. I’ll probably think of more tonight while I’m playing, in which case I may leave another post.

I’ll stop now.

[gerasimos]

master league is the best competition in pes!i want to see in pes11 master league...more improvements because pes11 will be new...and if u can to do something that we can play master league not only on single player but online too.... and play with other ppl teams and do transfers with them and many things that u can do on single player!i think u understand....that would be good!but u have to improve online system first!

[danny275]

altho ml is a massive improvement theres a few flaws and area which could be enhanced

1. Haggling system for contracts and transfer. My main annoyance is there no room to compromise! It should be like - they want 40m i say 30m - they come back with 37m i say 35m - they can come to a deal now. NOT give me 40m or no sign like 2010. Especially annoying with renewal of contracts. They should be still able to refuse tho if too many unagreeable offers
2. Bring back the trade system. I remember buying Kaka in 09, hating him and managing to swap him for robinho next season
3. Altho i can see what they tried with values i.e Kaka worth 12m tho they want 40m, the values and the price shouldnt vary this much and be more to the price
4. Potential manager jobs from other team. Tho not essential this would be cool to see how your original superteam manages without you, offer more replay value to the mode etc.
5. Multiple offers for great players
6. Weekly wage system than yearly
7. continue on my next season

7. Implement a better player popularity system. Altho in theory a good realistic idea it didn't work so well. A rated players should raise the amount the cpu will be willing to offer (could work well haggle system), more offers from team which could start a bidding war etc whilst d rated players should be able to be sold however teams will try to bid lower than the value to con you out of money
8. Less and more realistic transfers on other teams. This season i had tottenham buy eto and kaka
9. Injuries - Less frequent however can be season ending not just 1-4 weeks
10. Player responses why they dont want to sign. Could work well with haggling and players popularity system i proposed
11. Manager responses which will affect aspects such as heart meter for the team or certain players
13. Players requesting transfers for more 1st team places or world cup places if not played much
14 Add more managerial aspects which will spice up the mode and add a new depth of realism and tactical and strategic thinking

[bullitt]

also the ability to train all skill cards whilst in ml. I dont care i can i teach them elastico or roulette for most players, i want fox in the box, early cross etc for the less technical players.

Also more skill cards with the current 1's being assigned to more players (however keeping it realistic still i.e pirlo with early cross or kuyt having goal poacher )