Manager Mode issues

Manager Mode issues

Postby Chris Davies » Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:58 am

Help us compile a definitive list of FIFA 10 Manager Mode issues!

I've been sat here for the past few hours compiling a list of bugs/glitches/issues with Manager Mode in FIFA 10. If you have anything else to add please let us know so that we can pass everything onto EA.

LISTED IN ORDER OF SEVERITY

1) There is a strange Manager Mode freezing bug that doesn't allow you to progress any further, usually preceded by this error. [SCREENSHOT]

2) It has been reported that with some people transfers “lock” altogether after a certain amount of seasons (being linked to a disc problem). [INCIDENT 1]

3) All teams below the Premier League have their tactics set to all-70s. Applies to other leagues/teams as well, see Australia, Brazil and others.

4) All assists are credited to the goalkeeper.

5) Players you loan out can be sold by the clubs you loaned them to.

6) Newly signed players vanish from your squad with no warning. They just disappear, and then if you look them up they’re playing for someone else.

7) When trying to sign a second loan player, sometimes I am told by the game that I already have two – when I only have one.

8) When signing two loan players, I then tried to (permanently) sign two free agents, and I’m told I can’t sign them because I “already have two players on loan”.

9) 90% of matches in England are played at night in the rain regardless of stadium choice. I’ve yet to see a match played in the daytime with sunny weather.

10) Seasonal changes don’t seem to affect the weather. So in England, in the summer, you will see rain and even snow with no games being played in sunshine.

11) Signing players is practically impossible, even when offering maximum wages and maximum bonuses, even if you can get their interest level up to 85%+. (Even if you start out as a manager with no reputation, you should be able to sign really poor players with no reputation who aren’t getting first-team football elsewhere.)

12) Signing your own players is just as difficult, regardless of how well the team is doing. They refuse to sign even when you offer the maximum wages allowed. But if you wait until the end of the season, you get the same screen you get in FIFA 09 where you can just tick a box to re-sign a player and they will sign for peanuts! Strange one!

13) The board sack you even if you occupy first place. You can expect to be fired at the mid-way point of the season if you lose a cup game, even if you’re in the top four of the league, especially in the Premier League. Even in the lower leagues, I’ve seen situations where games are won 6-0 every week for months and suddenly you’re fired the moment you draw 1-1.

14) When playing against teams who are better than you, your board always expect you to beat that team. I mostly play as a League 1 team, and if I’m beaten by a Championship or Premier League side I get a board comment that states I was “expected to win the game”, and occasionally you will get the sack for this. This may be because teams aren’t recognised in their correct division; for example, when losing against a team from the league above you, you will occasionally get a message that says you should have done better against “lower league opposition”.

15) The assistant manager, even when turned off, will swap your players around when you buy or sell a player. Player roles are also reset.

16) The assistant manager AI is terrible. It will choose players with no fitness (10%-20%) to play out of position, over players with 100% fitness who can play in that position. See below for more info.

17) The AI management of other clubs is terrible. Examples; Chelsea play Terry at LB with Cole at CB in the same match, Man Utd play Vidic and Ferdinand as LB/RB with Brown and Evra as CBs in the same match, Giggs gets played at LB occasionally, etc. etc. etc.

18) The effect of form is far too severe. It makes your team go up/down by a whole star rating within a few games, so with a 3 star team you can yoyo to 2 star and weeks later 4 star.

19) The form system seems to be totally random. I can win 2-3 games in a row by 2-3 goals and the form will get worse. A striker can score six goals in a game and his form will DROP!

20) I’ve seen one injury in two seasons; Marcel promised this lack of injuries – and especially this lack of SERIOUS injuries – was fixed for FIFA 10. This is simply not true. The most widely reported injury is whiplash, which isn't a common injury, and which only affects the player for a week.

21) Injuries don’t last for a long enough period of time. For example, a hamstring injury should keep a player out for a month – in FIFA 10 it’s a week.

22) When playing in the snow the ball used is white, which is incredibly difficult to see, and you can’t change the ball yourself.

23) Only 5 benched substitutes are allowed in FIFA 10 below the Premier League. All English league and cup competitions now allow 7 substitutes in reality.

24) Friendly games should allow 12 substitutes on the bench (and also you should be allowed to use all 12). Currently it’s restricted to 7 on the bench (with only 3 substitutions allowed).

25) Friendly games include matches against teams in your own division. This doesn’t usually happen in reality.

26) FA Cup games and the Community Shield game are played at night when they’re only ever played in the daytime now, including the final.

27) The shortlist was supposed to allow up to 20 players to be stored, but seems to only allow 10 players.

28) The overall rating of a player changes before/during the game. So if one of my strikers has an overall rating of 83 (including his form), when I pause the game and go to Team Management his rating can drop by 10+. What value is actually being used by the game? The pre-game rating or the paused-game rating?

29) Form should never affect physical attributes. For example, a striker who is on hot form wouldn’t see his pace increase.

30) Playing as a League 1/2 team, you have literally no fit players left after 3-5 games of the season. I don’t care how bad your fitness coach is, a group of professional players would have enough players fit to start a game after 3-5 games of the season. (You’re forced to spend £1m to upgrade your fitness coach to a realistic level.)

31) The league table that shows up at the start of each game is never correct (same as FIFA 09). It always shows you in 6th-9th position regardless of whether you’re in the top half or the bottom half of the table, and your opponents are shown in an incorrect position as well.

32) When simming games instead of playing them, two things to note. Firstly, the level of your fitness coach isn’t taken into account, so the players lose 25%-75% more fitness than they should. Secondly, when simming, you actually get to see some injuries! Plus they last for a decent period of time (e.g. metacarpal fracture, player out for four weeks)!

33) When you have a player injured, the game forces you to remove him from your team before going to the pre-game screen. You don't want to remove him from your first-choice team, you want to remove him at the pre-match team management screen, like in FIFA 09. But now you can't do that.

34) Often you are not told why a player has refused to sign for you. No explanation is given on the Negotiation History screen for these players and it seems that they are never permitted to sign for your club, for no apparent reason. You never get an explanation for the affected players.

35) Sometimes when trying to sign a player they’ll say e.g. they get a “bad vibe” from your current players. Try to sign them again next week and they’ll sign for you. Doesn’t make much sense.

36) You can list a player for sale/loan who is garbage, e.g. 42 overall when the rest of the players in your squad/division are 60+, and instantly you get offers from the top teams in your division/country for him. Sometimes even top-flight teams from other countries make an offer; they have no possible reason to loan in a player who is literally twice as bad as any other player they have. It seems that every player you ever list you MUST receive an offer for, even if they are terrible, and it’s always a good team that has no need for a poor player which shows interest.

37) As a manager with a reputation level of half-a-star, you sometimes get comments from the board that “a manager of your calibre should be performing better”.

38) You lose respect with the board when losing a game on penalties. You should be given the same increase/decrease you would be given for a draw rather than a win/loss in these circumstances.

39) The leader of the assist list seems to be the player who keeps the most clean sheets.

40) Players who are substituted show no ratings at full-time. So if my striker gets a hat-trick and I substitute him, his rating is blank after the game. (Yet substituted players can receive Man of the Match awards, so a rating must be getting calculated by the game? I presume they’re just not being displayed?)

41) Goals/assists that occur in cup competitions, e.g. the FA Cup, aren’t counted in the player’s statistics. Also goals from the Charity Shield game aren't counted and yet the game itself counts as a game played.

42) When scouted players are presented to you for purchase, they are always said to play on the opposite side to their preferred foot. For example, a left winger will always be shown to prefer their right foot. Yet if you buy the player, most of the time, they will actually prefer the appropriate foot.

43) Some players will sign for a club and then the next week they’ll have signed for somebody else!

44) When searching for players their form ratings are displayed, rather than their actual ratings. This means you have no idea what the player’s actual ratings are.

45) When buying a player, they are given a squad number already in use, and it messes up the squad numbers for the entire team. Why can’t they be given a number that isn’t in use?

46) A stadium will never fill up with people. I can play a Champions League match against a five-star team and all stands will still have large empty sections.

47) The player search parameters you input will reset when bidding on a player. So if you search for e.g. a defender, CB, rated 50-60, playing in League Two, then you bid on one and you want to search for a midfielder with the same rating, the parameters have been reset meaning you have to input each one again.

48) Occasionally the wrong stadium picture is displayed pre-game. For example when playing at the Emirates a picture of (what looked to be) the training ground was displayed.

49) Creating a player (not a Virtual Pro) to sign in your Manager Mode career seems incredibly difficult/buggy. If you create a player and assign him to the free agents pool, the game freezes. If you assign him to a national team, he doesn’t show up as a free agent in Manager Mode. If you assign him to a national team and THEN move him to the free agents pool, you won’t be able to find him anywhere but in the “Created Players” section and you’ll see that his assigned team is referred to as something like "team1932as12309" – you can’t then find this team/player in Manager Mode to sign the player.

50) Commentary gaffes happen every 1-2 games, e.g. “5 minutes to go and they lead 1-0” when it’s 1-1, “I have to say he’s on one of the worst runs of his career” when he’s already scored in the match you’re playing, etc. etc. etc. and also, when playing as your Virtual Pro, you find the commentary refers to you scoring your 20th goal every time you score once you’ve reached that point. So for example when you score your 21st goal the commentator will say it’s your 20th, etc. (not sure if this only applies to Manager Mode or other modes as well).

NEW ONES

51) People playing as League Two teams (e.g. Bury) are reporting that they are not entered into the English league cup competition.

52) People are reporting that they can go from having millions to spend to being BILLIONS in debt. [INCIDENT 1]

53) For the new season it was said by the development team that you receive new transfer funds and a new wage budget to reflect the new income for that season. People are reporting they start the new season with the same money they ended the last one.

54) In the Squad Management screen before a fixture, set it to display the OVR rather than fatigue bar, then select a reserve and swap him with another reserve. I've seen both of their OVRs change.

55) The Edit Formation screen is buggy. If you nudge one position around, then go to change the role of another position, it thinks the second position is where the first is. Sometimes it'll move it so they overlap, and you have to drag it back to where you want it. This was also the case in FIFA 09.

56) The OVR number disappeared from a player's bio. It used to be next to the player's list of positions. Why has it been removed?

57) Your board can give you an objective, e.g. avoid relegation, but you're given no indication as to where the relegation zone is, e.g. playing as a Polish league side the board objectives for the first season are to get to the QF of the cup and to "aviod the relegation zone". Where is it? Bottom 3? Bottom 2? I'm in position 14 out of 16, how are we supposed to know if that's safe?

58) The board will often tell you to invest in new players, when the transfer window is closed and there's nothing you can do about it.

59) When saving a Manager Mode game, when it's finished saving, why are you prompted to save your profile as well? This is with autosave turned on!

60) The Belgian league is missing playoffs.

61) The new Europa League format is not in the game.

62) Incorrect teams make it into European competition. As someone has said, "I got 4th in career mode but a team that ended up 12th goes to europa league while I don't". [INCIDENT 1]

63) For some reason only ten characters are permitted for first names and surnames now, when this wasn't the case in FIFA 09.

64) Friendly games (possibly Community Shield and cup games too) are counted as league games on the Manager History screen. So the recorded points/league position is false.

65) CPU substituted players remain on the field. Example; playing as Blackburn against Bolton, they subbed Kevin Davies for Elmander and you see the animation of him going off - couple of minutes later you notice he's still on the pitch and nearly scores a header.

66) Players sent off after 30 minutes can still win the Man of the Match award, which is ridiculous.

67) Teams from lower English leagues are appearing in European competitions which they shouldn't be eligible to appear in.

68) Some people are experiencing an issue where the transfer window is listed as having "one week left" when there's actually e.g. four weeks left. Also in some circumstances the transfer window continuously says that there is "one week left" and it gets stuck like this forever.

69) This has been reported by a Manager Mode player suffering from the transfer window bug where the game says there is "one week left" when there are actually e.g. four weeks left. "I put players up for sale until the message came up that said the board will not allow you to sell any more players. I left it at eight players, and now that the transfer window is open, none of the players are set as for sale and I get that same board message as soon as I try to list a player. It's like it remembers I listed the players but it forgets it took all of them off sale itself."

70) Going 5 games unbeaten is recognised as winning 5 games in a row from the commentators.

71) Commentators falsely call Pienaar captain even when the captain is set to Cahill.

72) Crowd noise, for derby games, has a major bug where the home team support goes silent if they score. Play as a London team against Arsenal at the Emirates and when they score, instead of the crowd shouting or cheering, the crowd fall deathly silent while the Arsenal players celebrate. At kick-off, the noise level returns to normal.

73) Starting a Manager Mode game as Notts County, a forum user signed a free agent called Andros Townsend and he appears in the squad twice. This kind of thing is being more widely reported now.

74) The Manager Mode freeze bug on the simulating screen, that was present in FIFA 09, is back. [ALL REPORTED INCIDENTS]
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Re: Manager Mode issues

Postby Schumi » Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:48 pm

Love to say MM is great this year, but actually it s****! All the promises made true MM-fanboys wanting to play it all the time, but I think it is seriously disappointing! Why? The list above covers everything. Can't really think of anything. Except that the Euroleague en CL-ball are not included, but I guess that's due to licensing. It would definetely add to realsims though! Especially the time, weather and transfer-codes are messed up! Patch please :oops:
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Re: Manager Mode issues

Postby pategato » Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:28 am

Wow, this is absolutely ridiculous, for the first time I'm happy the game is delayed 2 weeks here in America, I play MM mainly so, if it is so faulty, I wont be buying this game, will keep FIFA 09, thanks guys, you just saved me $60 dollars.
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Re: Manager Mode issues

Postby merton81 » Mon Oct 12, 2009 1:38 pm

Yeah there are a few bugs, but most of these happen to about 2% of the people who get this game. Also there is a patch coming out which will cahnge most of these. it doesn't mean you shouldn't get the game- it is so utterly brilliant!!!
i hope the update is good.
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Re: Manager Mode issues

Postby Lukemac516 » Mon Oct 12, 2009 2:10 pm

Is it me or is that an INCREDIBLE amount of bugs? :shock:

Great list Chris. I hope EA fix a majority of these issues but I highly doubt it. Especially the first one because I had to stop playing MM last year because of this issue. I even called EA and spoke to someone and they gave me the run around. This is just unacceptable.

Since I'm an American I have yet to purchase the game so I'm praying they will have patched up the game nicely by the release. MM mode is my favorite part of the game and if it's crocked like this I'm going to be severly dissapointed.

Come on EA do the right thing...
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Re: Manager Mode issues

Postby Alolo91 » Mon Oct 12, 2009 3:40 pm

Strange Age On Players:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LNYXbgE6kU

Copied Player:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-FAYqkNhn8

This is not good :(
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Re: Manager Mode issues

Postby NYGunner » Mon Oct 12, 2009 3:44 pm

wow that's alot of bugs, and serious ones too. Discouraging me to get the game. the Patch better cover all of these problems
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Re: Manager Mode issues

Postby danshankill09 » Mon Oct 12, 2009 4:57 pm

i hate the loan glitch i loaned out Mikel to liverpool n they slod him 2 man u for 10 mill
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Re: Manager Mode issues

Postby abeale » Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:17 pm

I started a manager mode with Valencia the other day and managed to play up to the 2nd round of the Spanish cup, i won the 1st leg 1 - 0 but then lost the second 3 - 2. My league form prior to this had been slightly poor but i was still close to the top four. My next match was at home against Racing where i beat them 4 - 1 but despite this result i still got sacked...i don't know if this was due to getting knocked out of the cup but it seemed rather harsh so early into the season.

So i decided to start another game as Valencia but this time i noticed that i would have to play Real Madrid in my first cup game, i thought I'd check out the board expectations and it was saying how they expected me to at least reach the cup final, Surely that would be pretty difficult to expect when you've been drawn to play one of the best sides in Spain?

Oh yea and how can they say on the back of the box "more realistic transfers" when the likes of Hleb who's on a season long loan to Stuttgart joins Psv in the summer transfer window and Aly Cissokho gets sold straight away when he's only just joined Lyon. :roll:
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Re: Manager Mode issues

Postby thomasjamesscott » Mon Oct 12, 2009 9:46 pm

When any CPU team signs a player they always give them shirt number 2, even if they are a forward, its bloody annoying.
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Re: Manager Mode issues

Postby benfiquista86 » Tue Oct 13, 2009 11:44 am

When I create a Virtual pro I don not see him in manager mode.
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Re: Manager Mode issues

Postby kk84 » Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:28 pm

the biggest issue is in manager mode when you play a match and you make a substitution you cant see his overall performance after the matchl. only the player you sub in to the match and the players you put out dissapear after match! very bad because then they dont get better overall in the game.
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Re: Manager Mode issues

Postby BarcaREM » Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:38 pm

I hate to say this but does anyone else think we should be calling for Marcel Kuhns head here? He made a lot of promises about this mode and seems to have only added bugs upon bugs.

I admit I'm in the US and haven't gotten the game yet but from reading Chris' list I am pretty put off. Someone comfort me and tell me its going to be ok :|
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Re: Manager Mode issues

Postby abeale » Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:33 pm

BarcaREM wrote:I hate to say this but does anyone else think we should be calling for Marcel Kuhns head here? He made a lot of promises about this mode and seems to have only added bugs upon bugs.


It kind of seems surprising considering he supposedly used to work on the championship manager games..
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Re: Manager Mode issues

Postby BarcaREM » Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:38 pm

I think he may not have been given the time and man power to accomplish what he wanted to do. But I was really looking forward to a Manager Mode that was similar to previous version just without all the dumb bugs and unrealistic problems. But from what I'm reading it seems like all he has done is fix a few bugs and unrealistic things and add a whole host more.

I'd be interested to know if you guys still prefer this years manager mode to last years?
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Re: Manager Mode issues

Postby abeale » Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:26 pm

Just started another manager mode with Milan this time, i managed to play up to the 1st round of the Italian cup but when i returned to playing the game after a short break it froze upon reloading the save game. If i now try and reload the save game the same thing happens every time so basically my Milan game seems to be knackered now.. :(
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Re: Manager Mode issues

Postby Chris Davies » Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:18 am

BarcaREM wrote:I'd be interested to know if you guys still prefer this years manager mode to last years?

I think with everything they've added, if it was all working, this year's Manager Mode would be BY FAR the better experience.

As it is now though, it has potential, but it's so completely broken that you can't do anything without it being screwed up, basically. So if it was a choice between playable (but stale) and broken, then... Well, there isn't much choice...

The new patch will be along shortly though, hopefully it's not the last and hopefully by this time next month we'll have a superb, playable Manager Mode.
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Re: Manager Mode issues

Postby BarcaREM » Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:29 pm

I hope your right Chris.

I've been looking forward to this Fifa predominantly because of manager mode. I've always thought if manager mode could remotely resemble the FM franchise in its depth and realism it would be a sight to see. With all the licenses and everything in fifa, manager mode could be the game's greatest aspect.

Here's hoping they spend the time to patch the mode and at least fix these major bugs.
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Re: Manager Mode issues

Postby Nanny » Fri Oct 16, 2009 5:23 am

i just finished my 1st season and have some issues,

- my budget carried over from the previous year so i only have 1.3 million again to spend at the start of the year
- my 8 loaned out players played all of 3 games collectively
- i won the EPL when my board requirements were to get a top 4 spot so my rep went +9 but then it went -15 because i didnt make the the final of the FA cup i got knocked out in the 5th round by liverpool
- in the cup competitions they play their full strength teams against me every time
- team of the season was all of my players and 2 chelsea players, just didnt seem right when berbatov was EPL top scorer and didnt make the team
- obviously dont have to mention form but ... im going to anyway
- every game i sim'd i won? (which was only like 5)
- when you go transfer summary and you want to look at say the biggest transfer fee, you only get it for that page, you have to cycle through the 22 pages with the highest at the top of each page
- after one season i know every commentary line down pat, in the last 10 games of the year they said the line about how sweet there job is at least once every game

- they have so much room to expand on MM, FIFA 11 better have a monster MM mode in it.

- i late thought i just had, if the player ratings is how they dictate form yet player ratings would also be how they would determine team of the season, how did nearly my whole team go all year on down form but they all were in team of the year?

also chris one of your manager mode issues in your list is that europa cup doesnt have the new format but mike takala said that they didnt have time to put it in the game so that wasnt meant to be in anyway. its still good to leave it on the list as hopefully it will make them remember to put it in the next one
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getting sacked

Postby endisforever » Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:19 pm

i am so sick of this that i akmost cant be bothered to restart manager mode

iam man u about 5 points off the top with a game in hand on about 10 games in the season

i lost to wolves 2-1 which is bad yes but i went from having more than half board confdance to less than a quater i then played balckburn and pasted them but just couldnt score so it was 0-0 i then get sacked

so from having a good start to the season to messing up in 2 games i get sacked :twisted: :twisted: .

this is the 4th time now and you just cant get into the game becuase if you have one bad result thats basically it you have to start again becuase recovering the confidance is so difficult unless you play a top four team and win

everytime i have been sacked by man u i am offered the same jobs with the same 2 irish clubs i might carry on with a lesser team if i got a decent option once in a while

has anyone actually got througha season with man u on world class or ledgendary without been sacked becuase it seems near on impossible to do
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